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6/17/08 - No time for speeches

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Re: Just a couple points ...

Postby Retiarius on Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:21 am

JEDraft wrote:Because it's not going to be mentioned in the script moving forward:

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This was the first time that Gorshash had decided to use Ginsha for such an important mission. She did well, and was rewarded. Mentl, as a low (or no) value slave was given to her to put her on the lowest ladder of social respectability. The equivalent of a subsistence farmer having an undersized cow, I imagine. She was thrilled, naturally, and was in no mood to have her party rained on - with the results that you saw.


This reminds me of the old Roman Republic. Even the poorest citizen (note: citizen) had a slave, even if he was part of the "head count".
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Postby AdamZero on Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:51 am

One the truth of Zona's feelings, I think they're true. Why? I just do.

Tula said they're cha was as balanced as anything, which makes me think they're either A) meant to be or B)Mentl's love magick helped balance her.

Think about it, Mentl's mere prescense clams Zona down in situations normally she'd be rather irate in. What cha' wanna bet that Mentl kept a rather foul fiasco from happening with that after dinner party?

And how many men do you think went to bed with the girls who had to work off Mentl's spell?

Though I do feel bad for that nice councilor...whatshisname... so hard to find nice gay guys in such an uptight society...

he is gay right? you know the guy I mean. (I was surprised to see that one piece in the gallery with him in battle gear. It'd be cool to see him in a fight)
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Postby kamatu on Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:03 am

I doubt it, remember that Zona comes from a warrior society and would have seen that effect before, but it wouldn't last too long, so you'd have to have some extended PTSD to make that work. Of course, the other idea of Ginsha's human "half" coming back in spirit form with advice to Mentl might be interesting. It might even be easier for the old man to manifest himself that way since it is now part of Mentl's psyche.

macnut wrote:
Spam Vader wrote:Ooh, some juicy hallucinations of a Ginsha with her head crushed begging for more right when Mentl is starting to get intimate with Zona, squicking out Mentl faster than you can say P.T.S.D.?

I can see how that would make their relationship a bit strained.


Wow, talk about a mood killer. And I can see Zona taking personally Mentl withdrawing from her at that moment, especially if he's unwilling to talk about it (as many men would be at that time).

Yeah, that would put a strain on their relationship alright, especially on Mentl's end if he looks back on their relationship and remembers that Zona always got really hot for his bod right after he sang for her (or even within her earshot). He could end up wondering just how much of her feelings for him are "real".

Maybe Zona should be wondering too?
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Postby JEDraft on Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:18 pm

AdamZero wrote:One the truth of Zona's feelings, I think they're true. Why? I just do.

Tula said they're cha was as balanced as anything, which makes me think they're either A) meant to be or B)Mentl's love magick helped balance her.

Think about it, Mentl's mere prescense clams Zona down in situations normally she'd be rather irate in. What cha' wanna bet that Mentl kept a rather foul fiasco from happening with that after dinner party?

And how many men do you think went to bed with the girls who had to work off Mentl's spell?

Though I do feel bad for that nice councilor...whatshisname... so hard to find nice gay guys in such an uptight society...

he is gay right? you know the guy I mean. (I was surprised to see that one piece in the gallery with him in battle gear. It'd be cool to see him in a fight)


Yes, Count Tethik is gay.

And no, he's not a wimp. No successful man of his class is less than a competent warrior.

And you will be seeing more of him in future after things get even more interesting.

:)
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Postby AdamZero on Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:04 pm

Smart enough to stay OFF the throne, will all the wit and strength to keep the kingdom going from off it.

so he's gonna get some gore time 'gainst the baddies. NICE.

bet that's a riot, ma'am.
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The need for speed?

Postby MadCelt on Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:21 pm

I am happy to see our heroes back together again! But I hope you aren't glossing over too much in order to progress the story -- if you leave too many questions unanswered my head will explode.

Our heroes, reunited, must now face whatever forces still remain inside Shuach's old temple to get out!

Are the rooms that close together that they found each other so quickly? Lairs mined out of solid rock caves are justifiably small, so I can accept that.

But what about Gorshash? Apparently he has expired, choked to death by Tula's well-placed red missiles? (Life is so so fragile). I very seriously doubt Tula or Zona would leave him merely unconscious, not with a knife and a sword handy -- even if the alarm has been raised. But we just don't know.... yet.

Is Gorshash even more dangerous when he's dead?
Was Gorshash just a pawn in Shuach's larger game (hence the board game reference)?
What made Gorshash so smart in the first place.. biology? or something else?

It's your extra little details about the mortal peril that made it so enjoyable (the urtts arguing about trophies while gambling near Zona, the interplay bewteen Mentl and Ginsha that got him kicked, Tula's delight as she realizes Gorshash has inadvertantly given her the tool for her escape) -- you don't have to firehose us with plot progression. I am really enjoying the ride, even if the speedometer isn't pegged out!

Hope all is well out there in Cali. Are you in a fire-free area?
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Postby JEDraft on Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:06 pm

None of the things you're talking about will be left dangling loose, trust me.

As for how things are in SoCal, we're fine. Reseda is safe. Hotter than a half-fucked fox in a forest fire, but we're not actually blazing. Hopefully, I'll have a new page out by tomorrow.

And I am going at my own pace, I assure you. This bit of the script was written months ago, and what I'm writing now won't be seen until Winter, most likely, at this rate.
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Postby AdamZero on Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:26 pm

haha nice. so no man of his class... so fat boy has some 'skill' maybe? with a mace probably?
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Postby JEDraft on Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:40 pm

Maldik's not been exactly what you'd call "successful, " and so I wouldn't put him in the arena with Tethik and expect him to last long. Compared to someone like his brother Gudik or Zona, he's pathetic. Nonetheless, he knows how to use arms, like all men of his class. King Kendrik, when he was alive, actually did not neglect to try to impart some of his monumental badassitude to his younger son, with mixed results.
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Re: The need for speed?

Postby Kern on Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:11 pm

MadCelt wrote:But what about Gorshash? Apparently he has expired, choked to death by Tula's well-placed red missiles? (Life is so so fragile). I very seriously doubt Tula or Zona would leave him merely unconscious, not with a knife and a sword handy -- even if the alarm has been raised. But we just don't know.... yet.


I seriously doubt Tula or Zona would kill an unconscious opponant. Killing somebody in combat is vastly differant to killing somebody who's helpless, regardless as to what they've done to you - and, I kinda suspect, a major offense to their Cha.
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Postby Xaa on Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:33 pm

AdamZero wrote:his cha is seriously out of wack then. I mean in his heart, he seduced, mentally overpowered, and beat down, a 'relatively' "innocent" being.


I disagree. "Cha", as it's been explained in the comic, is a more overarching accounting of actions. Given that the girl in question was going to rape him, kill him, then eat him ( :shock: ) while he was helpless and in chains, well, his using sorcery to seduce her into releasing him then killing her so he could escape might qualify as "justifiable homicide", as it were.

As for me, I feel Mentl's reaction to what he's done is not only perfectly understandable, but entirely justifiable. He just beat someone to death (or likely death) and he's really a rather gentle guy.

In short, I think Cha is about what you do, not how you feel about what you do.
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Postby JEDraft on Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:48 pm

I'd say that's a fair assessment of what cha is. Still, even the most noble of intentions still results in acts that push your personal cha into the negative. Sometimes, as Zona says, she has won victories at the cost to her cha.
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Postby Xaa on Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:25 am

JEDraft wrote:I'd say that's a fair assessment of what cha is. Still, even the most noble of intentions still results in acts that push your personal cha into the negative. Sometimes, as Zona says, she has won victories at the cost to her cha.


I can see that. Just because you have good intentions doesn't necessarily make what you do the right thing to do. As the old saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, etc.
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