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I's a History Channel show where they recreate dinosaur fights in CGI. They spend most of the episode explaining how the dinosaur's biology influences their fighting, then show the fight at the conclusion of the episode, with a running commentary.

Did I mention how this show is awesome? This show is awesome.

I'm just getting into "Conquest."


OMG - so much information condensed into a half-hour time slot,and all of it incredible. I am learning so many details about exactly how Ipola managed the consolidation of the tribes, the alliance with Kivalia and the victories against the Urtts and the Sandaks.

It is an epic story, but now it's more than just broad strokes in my mind - I can see exactly the techniques, the tactics and the strategies she used, from the Romans to Boudicea to the Huns - SO frigging cool. Hey - if it's been done, then it CAN be done. I can just cut out the mistakes that others have made ...

And yes - I'm thinking of a flashback series. There's too much good stuff to mine with Kendrik, Zonn, young Yanora and all the others.

So many stories, so little time ...

JEDraft wrote:I'm just getting into "Conquest."


OMG - so much information condensed into a half-hour time slot,and all of it incredible. I am learning so many details about exactly how Ipola managed the consolidation of the tribes, the alliance with Kivalia and the victories against the Urtts and the Sandaks.

It is an epic story, but now it's more than just broad strokes in my mind - I can see exactly the techniques, the tactics and the strategies she used, from the Romans to Boudicea to the Huns - SO frigging cool. Hey - if it's been done, then it CAN be done. I can just cut out the mistakes that others have made ...

And yes - I'm thinking of a flashback series. There's too much good stuff to mine with Kendrik, Zonn, young Yanora and all the others.

So many stories, so little time ...

Heh. It would be fine if you could just get that software to run quicker and without gliches for you.

kamatu wrote:

JEDraft wrote:I'm just getting into "Conquest."


OMG - so much information condensed into a half-hour time slot,and all of it incredible. I am learning so many details about exactly how Ipola managed the consolidation of the tribes, the alliance with Kivalia and the victories against the Urtts and the Sandaks.

It is an epic story, but now it's more than just broad strokes in my mind - I can see exactly the techniques, the tactics and the strategies she used, from the Romans to Boudicea to the Huns - SO frigging cool. Hey - if it's been done, then it CAN be done. I can just cut out the mistakes that others have made ...

And yes - I'm thinking of a flashback series. There's too much good stuff to mine with Kendrik, Zonn, young Yanora and all the others.

So many stories, so little time ...

Heh. It would be fine if you could just get that software to run quicker and without gliches for you.

Poser 7 is, indeed, a huge improvement. If you're seeing the art look a little better be sure that part of it is simply because the flow itself is going smoother and I have more luxury to make multiple renders to choose the best shot and more time to do post-work.

Spam Vader wrote:I's a History Channel show where they recreate dinosaur fights in CGI. They spend most of the episode explaining how the dinosaur's biology influences their fighting, then show the fight at the conclusion of the episode, with a running commentary.

Did I mention how this show is awesome? This show is awesome.

Agreed that show is awesome. It does a great job of showing the power and ferocity of these animals, and they help confirm a general feeling I have about them:

Boy am I glad they're already extinct. If they weren't, they'd be so downright LETHAL to humanity that we'd probably HAVE to exterminate them-and we'd have had to do it a century or more ago. Plant-eaters too-can you imagine that kind of damage an Apatosaur could do to a field of wheat?

And Conquest is great too-it's cool seeing those ancient battles played out pretty much as they happened. If I were doing a fantasy sword-and-sorcery comic, that show would be rich source material. Drawing all those soldiers would be real time-consuming though-ancient battles were HUGE with sometimes TENS of THOUSANDS of soldiers on each side. It's amazing how ancient kings, emperors and generals were able to raise those kind of numbers back when human populations weren't nearly as large as they are today.

It's funny that with over 6 billion people on the planet on this 21st century, there tend to be smaller proportions of them being soldiers than ever before. But that's what modern weapons will do for ya....

macnut wrote:It's funny that with over 6 billion people on the planet on this 21st century, there tend to be smaller proportions of them being soldiers than ever before. But that's what modern weapons will do for ya....

Not to forget much better pay soldiers get nowadays, more expensive weapons & equipment... and less illusions about glory of battle.

Matti wrote:

macnut wrote:It's funny that with over 6 billion people on the planet on this 21st century, there tend to be smaller proportions of them being soldiers than ever before. But that's what modern weapons will do for ya....

Not to forget much better pay soldiers get nowadays, more expensive weapons & equipment... and less illusions about glory of battle.

The bit that was most informative was the episode about the Roman legion. Man, they were frigging ruthless and efficient, and unless you were could somehow match their discipline with your own, you just prepared to be completely owned. Check it out:

http://www.legionsix.org/Conquest.htm

JEDraft wrote:

Matti wrote:

macnut wrote:It's funny that with over 6 billion people on the planet on this 21st century, there tend to be smaller proportions of them being soldiers than ever before. But that's what modern weapons will do for ya....

Not to forget much better pay soldiers get nowadays, more expensive weapons & equipment... and less illusions about glory of battle.

The bit that was most informative was the episode about the Roman legion. Man, they were frigging ruthless and efficient, and unless you were could somehow match their discipline with your own, you just prepared to be completely owned. Check it out:

http://www.legionsix.org/Conquest.htm

They were also the most frickin’ efficient combat engineers for centuries. There wasn’t a fortress they couldn’t crack if they wanted to, and the rate at which they could build seigeworks was astounding. The ramp the Romans built at Masada was a child’s toy compared to the circumvallation (and contravallation) that they built during the Siege of Alesia.

Retiarius wrote:

JEDraft wrote:

Matti wrote:

macnut wrote:It's funny that with over 6 billion people on the planet on this 21st century, there tend to be smaller proportions of them being soldiers than ever before. But that's what modern weapons will do for ya....

Not to forget much better pay soldiers get nowadays, more expensive weapons & equipment... and less illusions about glory of battle.

The bit that was most informative was the episode about the Roman legion. Man, they were frigging ruthless and efficient, and unless you were could somehow match their discipline with your own, you just prepared to be completely owned. Check it out:

http://www.legionsix.org/Conquest.htm

They were also the most frickin’ efficient combat engineers for centuries. There wasn’t a fortress they couldn’t crack if they wanted to, and the rate at which they could build seigeworks was astounding. The ramp the Romans built at Masada was a child’s toy compared to the circumvallation (and contravallation) that they built during the Siege of Alesia.

Still, Hannibal matched them with his crossing of the Rhone. And you know, you had to be fricking Hannibal to do that. I mean, legendary stuff, right? Elephant water wings? Jesus!

JEDraft wrote:Still, Hannibal matched them with his crossing of the Rhone. And you know, you had to be fricking Hannibal to do that. I mean, legendary stuff, right? Elephant water wings? Jesus!

Yeah, that was pretty good, but that was also earlier in Rome’s history—and as brilliant as Hannibal was, the Romans still stomped Carthage in the end. Took them three Punic Wars to do it, but they did it.

Retiarius wrote:

JEDraft wrote:Still, Hannibal matched them with his crossing of the Rhone. And you know, you had to be fricking Hannibal to do that. I mean, legendary stuff, right? Elephant water wings? Jesus!

Yeah, that was pretty good, but that was also earlier in Rome’s history—and as brilliant as Hannibal was, the Romans still stomped Carthage in the end. Took them three Punic Wars to do it, but they did it.

Which says something about how powerful Carthage really was right there, that it took three wars to stomp them when Rome was pretty much at the height of it's power.

macnut wrote:

Retiarius wrote:

JEDraft wrote:Still, Hannibal matched them with his crossing of the Rhone. And you know, you had to be fricking Hannibal to do that. I mean, legendary stuff, right? Elephant water wings? Jesus!

Yeah, that was pretty good, but that was also earlier in Rome’s history—and as brilliant as Hannibal was, the Romans still stomped Carthage in the end. Took them three Punic Wars to do it, but they did it.

Which says something about how powerful Carthage really was right there, that it took three wars to stomp them when Rome was pretty much at the height of it's power.

Not near the height. Roman possessions pretty much consisted of Italy proper at the start and some of those were allied cities, not provinces. The peak of Rome's power came a few centuries later. Of course, conquering North Africa and the Iberian peninsula to take them away from the Carthaginians went a long way to help that out.

Look here and here.

Pretty much, the superior social organization of the Romans beat the superior economic and military position of the Carthaginians. It really only took them two wars to finish them, the third was simply cutting their throats. If the Carthaginians had gotten their heads out of their rears and supported one another even half as well as the Romans did, there would have been no Roman Empire.

I concur.

Right, and the ancients learned their tactics based on tried-and-true strategies of dinosaurs.

Spam Vader wrote:Right, and the ancients learned their tactics based on tried-and-true strategies of dinosaurs.

Errr…what?