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5-17-08 ; Hard-Headed

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5-17-08 ; Hard-Headed

Postby macnut on Sat May 17, 2008 6:12 am

Ginsha's got one hard head-why am I not surprised? This is going to turn very ugly for Mentl.

How? Well, I was worried that Zona was gonna kill Ginsha over Mentl's objections, possibly causing a rift between them. Now it looks like it's Mentl who's gonna end up doing the killing-and how's that gonna affect a man who's most likely never taken a (humaniod) life before?

If I'm right on this, well done, JE. Even if I'm not, still well done.
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Postby Trader Jimm on Sat May 17, 2008 4:40 pm

I did not see the locking mechanism, but I was wondering if Mentl could just chain Ginsha to the iron ball. Then again, that wouldn't keep her quiet. Could Mentl make her go to sleep, as opposed to bashing her brains out?
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Postby Spam Vader on Sat May 17, 2008 7:42 pm

I dunno... seems like she likes it, probably 'cause of that Urtt blood.
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Postby Kern on Sat May 17, 2008 10:50 pm

Same line of thought, here, but - I rather suspect she likes it because of what Mentl did to her, and he's just twigged to it too
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Postby Spam Vader on Sun May 18, 2008 7:59 pm

And I say it's because Urtts are naturally more agreeable to a little rough-housing during their woohoo sessions. The fact that he just turned her into a raving woohoo beast probably doesn't make her more adverse to it. I mean, heck, if they don't do the rough-housing, how would we have half-Urtts? Unless there are furries in Erogenia...
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Postby macnut on Sun May 18, 2008 8:08 pm

Male slave-owners frequently rape their female slaves-this tends to happen even when both master and slave are human. It doesn't mean the Urrts have Klingon mating habits (though I wouldn't put it past them).

I suspect Kern's guess to why Ginsha is loving being bashed in the head-Mentl's spell got her so turned on that she's even interpreting pain as pleasure.
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Postby Kern on Mon May 19, 2008 10:19 am

The other thought is - how much damage has the stool done to her face/head? That's a fair amount of blood on both it and the stool.
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Another Hollywood Myth Busted (unlike Ginsha's skull)

Postby MadCelt on Mon May 19, 2008 4:40 pm

Thanks for getting it right! A dose of reality is a refreshing complication compared to the action movie cop-out we see too often -- one blow finishing a fight.

Only in the movies do people fold like a card table from one blow -- be it a Judo Chop to the neck or a pistol butt to the head.

You have to hit someone incredibly hard to knock them out cold! The skull is armor for the brain and it's built to take a licking and keep on ticking. A good shot will stun or disorient, certainly, but you need some serious arm strength (or a lever of appropriate size) to lay someone out.

Not that Zona couldn't do it (She has...re: Yatta Ta of Ir Anis) but she's inhumanly powerful.

I really feel some sympathy for Mentl at this point -- he is now in a position where he needs to "up the ante" of his personal violence -- against Ginsha, who is half human and has no real means of fighting back while under the influence of Mentl's spell. How many blows will it take? Is beating her to death going to be needed? Could you do it if you were in his shoes (not that he is wearing shoes)?

It's one thing not to be against capital punishment, it's another to actually end another life. Vito's advice to remember that his enemies are not human seems critically important now.
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Re: Another Hollywood Myth Busted (unlike Ginsha's skull)

Postby Matti on Tue May 20, 2008 6:29 pm

MadCelt wrote:Only in the movies do people fold like a card table from one blow -- be it a Judo Chop to the neck or a pistol butt to the head.

I've seen same in comics and read in novels.
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Re: Another Hollywood Myth Busted (unlike Ginsha's skull)

Postby kamatu on Wed May 21, 2008 1:16 am

Matti wrote:
MadCelt wrote:Only in the movies do people fold like a card table from one blow -- be it a Judo Chop to the neck or a pistol butt to the head.

I've seen same in comics and read in novels.


It is the same with gunshots for the peons. The problem is that the action needs to keep moving for the most part and that is the easiest way to do it rather than showing people getting hammered/shot repeatedly.

Interesting side effect, when I was working at a convenience store in the 80s, I interacted with the local cops quite a bit. Part of their training is a class on "surviving" being shot. It seems that when they were doing research, far too many cops were dying of shock from relatively minor gunshot wounds. It was believed that it came from watching too many TV/movies where one shot kills the spear carriers.

Now, IMO, if the purpose was just to move the story along to the next scene, Ginsha would have gone down with the first whack, but Mentl is seeing both the power of his ability and probably (correctly or incorrectly) getting the "nonhuman = no mercy" idea impressed on his brain.

I'm going to be interested to see how the three situations sync as "real time". Does Mentl get out and functional (whatever he does to the Urrts) before meeting Zona, or does he meet with Zona fairly quickly (almost simultaneous escapes) and gets to play a stronger support role only. The second would also apply if they independently cause great mayhem and meet up, because Zona would take charge almost immediately and not really bother to think it out. Well, unless Zona found Mentl in the middle of a roomful of crispy critter Urrts.

I think Tula is cast as damsel in distress in this arc until they get to her and run off the boss.

So, now we see how the character development is going to keep running.
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Postby david255 on Wed May 21, 2008 10:05 pm

What if there is some unknown effect of the song, "Body Language," that would keep the body animated and perpetually horny? You could have zombies walking around looking for sex instead of brains, she's still hungry after all.
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Postby kamatu on Fri May 23, 2008 1:32 am

david255 wrote:What if there is some unknown effect of the song, "Body Language," that would keep the body animated and perpetually horny? You could have zombies walking around looking for sex instead of brains, she's still hungry after all.


OMG! ROFLMAO!
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Postby Pinkku on Thu May 29, 2008 3:57 am

Ha! That's awesome and disturbing XD

Mostly disturbing =o


But still awesome.
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